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Seeking Advice on Reapplying to MBB After CTL

Hi all,

I’m looking for some advice on reapplying to another MBB firm after being CTLd (Counselled to Leave) from a previous role at one of the firms. Since then, I’ve worked in an internal strategy role and have learned a lot, addressing the areas that led to my departure. I’m confident that I could thrive in consulting if given another opportunity.

A couple of questions I have for those who’ve gone through similar experiences:

  1. How likely is it that I’ll be asked during the interview why I’m reapplying to an MBB firm instead of returning to the one where I was originally employed?
  2. How should I best approach answering this? Should I be completely transparent about the circumstances of my departure, or would it be better to frame it in a way that minimizes the risk of being seen as a “risky” candidate?

Any insights or advice would be much appreciated.

Thanks in advance!

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Hagen
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on Oct 03, 2024
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Hi there,

I would be happy to share my thoughts on your questions:

  • First of all, there is a very good chance that you will be asked why you are applying to another consulting firm instead.
  • Moreover, I would focus on the reasons for the other consulting firm (compared to your previous employer) when addressing this question in the interview.
  • Lastly, if the interviewer asks specifically about the reasons why you left your previous employer, I would also focus on the reasons for your current employer and not on negative aspects of your previous employer, be it in relation to you personally or the firm.

If you would like a more detailed discussion on your specific situation, please don't hesitate to contact me directly.

Best,

Hagen

Brian
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edited on Oct 05, 2024
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1) You definitely will be asked why you are applying for consulting again, and why not your alma mater. This is an easily addressable question, with a standard answer that is universally accepted that your sponsor network has left

2) Do not inform them that you have been CTL-ed or PIPed. That will immediately tank your chances. Refer to what I wrote in part 1) for a decent answer

On a side note, the MBB network does thrive on gossip and "due diligence", there is a medium to high chance that your interviewers and future colleagues might find out you were CTL-ed. Perception management is life and death in consulting, are you sure you want to come in already at a disadvantage?

More importantly, you should ask yourself why you want to come back to MBB. Assuming you were at McKinsey, the system is built to be a caring meritocracy. If you truly were on concerns and CTL-ed, it might make sense to reflect whether this is something you want to get back into and what up-sides you truly will get from this. 

Fathu
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on Oct 05, 2024
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Hello there,

It's almost 100% sure you'll be asked why you're not returning to the old firm and in that case, you should focus more on how this firm is aligned with your career objectives (e.g., office sectoral focus, strength in the market, specific Partners and past presentations / reports, etc.)

Alternatively, if the question is focused on the CTL, I'd suggest you acknowledge the reasons for leaving the old firm and highlight how you'll manage those realities or how you've evolved professionally from the earlier challenges so they feel more at ease.

All the best,

Fathu

on Oct 03, 2024
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Hi there,

When reapplying, you'll likely be asked why you're not returning to your previous employer. 

My recommendation is to focus on the new firm’s specific appeal. You should tell them why you want to work for them and mention points where they are stronger than your former employer. This could be their expertise in industries or regions you're passionate about, or any meaningful conversations with someone at the firm, who really sparked your interest or inspired you. 

I would only mention the CTL in case they specifically ask you about CTL. The probability isn't very high - switching to internal strategy is a common move and not unusual. Many professionals make this shift because they want to be more involved in the long-term implementation and see the progress of their work over time, which can be limited in traditional consulting roles. When addressing your CTL, be transparent but frame it constructively. Briefly explain how your current role has helped you improve in areas that were challenges before, and express confidence in your ability to contribute effectively to the new firm. By focusing on your growth and motivation, you'll show your resilience and that you're a stronger candidate now with a clear reason for wanting to join this specific firm. Always stay professional with regards to your former employer. 

Hope that helps!

If you need support once you prep your interviews, don't hesitate to reach out.

All the best,

Kairavee

Florian
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on Oct 03, 2024
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Hi there,

  1. It's almost guaranteed that you will receive this question in one of the interviews.
  2. Focus on two things, a. personal reasons and circumstances why you dropped out before (that potentially made the consulting lifestyle unfeasible at that time in your life) and b. the value-alignment and motivation for the new firm (because of your impressions and discussions with current consultants from the firm). If you perform well during the cases and fit, you will not be seen as a risky candidate.

All the best,

Florian

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